Mean Girls, Plants, and Markers

[00:00:00] You're listening to the Planner Girl Chatter podcast with your hosts Jamie Marcus Bratcher and Colleen Phelan. Grab a fresh cup of coffee and the closest planner, start unboxing your latest Etsy order because it's time for Planner Girl Chatter.

[00:00:15] Welcome to the latest episode of Planner Girl Chatter. I am fired up everybody because I'm watching Love is Blind 4 and if you're not watching You are missing out on being fired up because Jamie My wonderful co-host Jamie. Are you fired up? Oh, I'm way fired up

[00:00:39] Yesterday I was watching the first couple episodes and I texted Jamie and I started sending comments But I didn't want to give her too much detail because she didn't respond and I didn't know if she was in it yet

[00:00:50] And then I was like I need for you to catch up and then she passed me y'all So Jamie we need to spend some time because Love is Blind 4 Is absolutely not so in the best possible Love is Blind way

[00:01:06] I was messaging with some folks on Instagram and they were like Did you see that last because I was going on and on on Instagram last week about Daisy or Daisy Jones and the six

[00:01:16] And we watched that on Amazon. Yeah. Nope. I'm waiting till it's all released because I've read all released. It's all released Okay, I'll probably watch it on my way to Medellin But first Jamie let's talk about the show

[00:01:31] You have to watch Daisy six Daisy Jones in the six Like if you have followed like did your mom follow Fleetwood Mac and update you or did you follow Fleetwood Mac to know?

[00:01:42] About all the history of Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham. Yeah. I know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how do you read the book? I did not read the book. I didn't read their books

[00:01:52] Oh, no way. I read Daisy Jones in the six. I read that book. That's what I mean. Yeah. Oh, yeah Oh, no, of course. I read the book. That's why I wanted it to be all out Yes, I don't waiting and I want to be able to binge

[00:02:03] Yeah, I wasn't gonna watch it but then I kept like a tick-tock is definitely sucking me in and you know, It hits me right and they kept talking about the old Silver Springs drama

[00:02:13] and I loved that a whole new generation of people were discovering this for the first time and I was just like yeah, I couldn't tell you how many people I sent that silly or like that live video of

[00:02:26] Stevie Nicks singing to Lindsey Buckingham and I'm like you can like feel this emotionally but my family got so tired of hearing about it Well, I I'm excited to watch that. I had to finish that before I could start love is blind

[00:02:41] So I thought I was behind on love is blind and then I got your messages and I was like Oh, thank God because you were behind on season three like the reunion stuff I well cuz I couldn't I got so okay. So let's be real season three reunion

[00:02:56] I'm a little over them. I feel like they've been overexposed and There's been too many stories and so I'm a little over season three like too many Season two. Yeah, like season two like deep deep tell me more about deep TV

[00:03:11] I want to know about her like I'm gonna watch The or there's a podcast that deep T and Natalie are doing Oh, really back to the pods or something like that. And I might listen to that because I

[00:03:28] Like them a lot and it's not that I don't like the people from Season three. I just don't care anymore. I feel like they just they were they just We kept rolling with them too long Yeah, they didn't move away from them soon enough now season four though

[00:03:44] I'm on I'm on the end of show four and I'm just saying it's And like who there are two mean girls y'all and like there is something that like mean girls like that It just mmm Like I can't I love it

[00:04:02] It's so like people talk about mean girls in the planer community and like there's been all these things like you can sit with us and I'm like, yeah, can you but Which sounds like I'm with the mean girl

[00:04:19] Husband told me one time he asked me if I had ever been bullied in high school and I said no and He was middle school and I was like no and he goes if you weren't bullied

[00:04:31] Then you were the bully and I was like that is a fucked up thing to say to me Well, it's fucked up. It's not true because not it's not like you're one or the other

[00:04:40] Like you're not always one or the other I had to ask my brother and my brother basically told me you got along with a Lot of people because I needed the outside perspective

[00:04:50] He's like you got along with a lot of people you bounce between a lot of friend groups And he said people liked you but some of the people that you were friends with were the bullies and so

[00:05:00] Like my cousin Curtis was like the class clown slash bully and That's the example you like Curtis would they beat people up? And so like you can't mess with Jamie because that's her cousin And then one of the girls that was known for beating people up

[00:05:16] I happened to go to elementary school with her and she was in like the edge of my circle When we hit like middle school and high school But people knew that we knew each other and so I guess people were worried

[00:05:31] it's weird because I'm friends with her on Facebook now and Her daughter gets bullied at school And there are so many people that comment back on her page and are like, oh like the way you treated people in high school Oh, man

[00:05:48] I actually I will say I had one person like in social media a Gal that I went to high school with who asked me why I bullied her freshman year about math

[00:05:59] And I was like you mean when I stepped down into the lower math class because I wasn't good at math Like I'm not sure why I would have bullied you but I was like, you know what? I'm so sorry

[00:06:09] I don't remember but I apologize because if I was an asshole, that's not okay But I was like of all the things I'd bully somebody about math doesn't seem to be the one like there's lots of things About

[00:06:22] And so but it was interesting because it was like, oh Like because I think like the reality is when you're a teenager Like developmentally you're the star of your own show

[00:06:34] Oh, there's really nobody else who's the star of your show except like there's always like, you know, the super popular kids I think there's like universal super popular kids at every school. But like I was the star of my show

[00:06:45] so I'm like, no, I didn't need they get in bull anybody well except for this one person who'd said I bullied her over math and I'm like I For me to bully anybody over math is like some bullshit. Like you should definitely

[00:07:05] Validate somebody who said like it's like no if I was an asshole I'm really sorry because yeah, I know I am an asshole sometimes but certainly never intended to bully anybody Like I never somebody to feel bad. I was like in my head

[00:07:18] I was like, I was like a violin tutor and I mentored people and I was even part of my god. Shut up I was Your story of high school Tutor I smoked weed and had a good time and party. There we go. There we go

[00:07:38] Let's go some with some truth bombs because I've heard about your high school years Baby and higher Lin tutor to people, you know You get violin tutor and smoke weed after school

[00:07:56] Gifted okay. I was so busy being gifted. I didn't have time for anything else because I was gifted I think the biggest thing was my mom worked nights And so I did we had one car to them I did have to go pick her up

[00:08:10] But like I worked or if I wasn't working I had the car So I just kind of got to do a bunch of like I just got myself in trouble because I could you know Yeah, I mean you were your house would have been the cool house

[00:08:23] So like I have my it was who were the cool friends house Yeah and so recently I reconnected with a friend from high school that like I was on the tennis team with her and she was like Really good friends with one of my besties like senior year

[00:08:38] But she and I weren't really close because I always thought that she didn't think I was cool enough And now it turns out she's like no I was just busy hanging out at home with my friend Melissa Saturday nights, and I was like

[00:08:50] Cuz I was not that she didn't think it was cool enough and now we're now we're like friends again, and it's super cool No We had like a party crew even like my friend Nelly her parents would like go on cruises and leave her home for a week

[00:09:00] And her brothers would go somewhere else and so we would just go hang out at our house and go sit in the hot tub and Then my mom worked nights and there was one point in time where like my mom

[00:09:11] I took over the master bedroom because we were downstairs all the time when my mom was home and it was bugging her I actually don't even remember how this came about and I've been meaning to ask her about it

[00:09:19] So mom messaged me cuz I know you listen to this But I ended up with a master bedroom because that's where all my friends and I hung out And I would do a lot of sleepovers and stuff

[00:09:28] And so I did always have people over so I was gonna say probably to keep you guys like I can imagine A mother of a teenager to keep you sequestered in one area. Yeah, I'd give you the master

[00:09:39] So then that bathroom is a wreck. You can have it a wreck with all your friends instead of like Yeah, fancy like that because we still lived in section 8 apartments And so like but we only we had like a three-bedroom apartment. There was two story

[00:09:54] Okay, we only had one bathroom upstairs But like I don't know if my friends would just come hang out there because their parents were hanging out their parents were up in their business and my mom was left in my business at that time and

[00:10:07] So, I don't know we just hung out all the time but that's interesting. Yeah It's to make sense though to sequester you like yeah it was like I think the funniest thing was everyone knew that we lived in like the

[00:10:18] Apartments we lived in and people were cool with it generally, we had a mix of people that hung out with us like jocks and cool people and you know all kinds of stuff and This one chick that I have a friend did move from New Jersey

[00:10:30] And when she called her mom to come pick her up like she had ridden the bus home with me Or one of our friends had dropped us off I don't recall and she was on the phone with her mom and she was like, yeah

[00:10:39] they're like these condos and I was just like I remember being like 16 and just like dying that she was like calling her like Low income housing apartment a condo and I was like, isn't condo a better word though I'm just a way better word, but

[00:10:56] It was low-income apartments off a fruit land lane like The back to love is mine it's like oh, yeah. Yeah people should be watching that you should put it in your planner I was like literally quilting and doing love is like watching love is blind

[00:11:14] I feel like I need some pod stickers. So yeah pod stickers But I looked up all of a sudden and like holy shit It's like I'm five episodes in I need to go to bed. I'm up way too late

[00:11:28] I and then I went to go try to lay down and I should have just finished the second half of the fifth episode but I didn't I couldn't like fall asleep because I was just like these

[00:11:40] Women are ruining the show. Oh, yeah, there's two of them and I think everybody will know by episode I think you really figured it out by The end of episode 2. Yeah that they're toxic. Like yeah, I'm just like there's like The two of you are toxic

[00:11:58] You're a hundred percent the toxic girls and like and it might be like I'm just very conscious of that right now but I'm like Like, you know, you don't need to be that way but Jamie More importantly than love is blind

[00:12:15] In our lives this moment well, I mean for you there is because apparently you've turned a new corner and You Have created a plant planner and I I don't know if you know, it's 2023 not 2020 Plants were really 2020 and then yeah, and you're a little behind

[00:12:40] We didn't live we didn't have a house then so I mean You're totally right. Okay, so in fairness, it's not a separate planner in my b6 Sterling commonplace planner. It's in the journaling pages in the back. I add a

[00:13:00] Was wondering if you made a whole new planner for this planner because I saw the pages I don't watch your stories, but sometimes this the front of them catches me and I saw plant something listen I've really been doing my best to hold

[00:13:13] Back from sharing all the questions and details that I have about all these plants that I have now But it's very hard I Think I was like, I don't know

[00:13:25] I have a lot of plants right now and I'm really happy with them and I've never been a plant person And so they're all growing really well, and they're all just doing great You know what?

[00:13:35] I don't need to brag I know I have two that are dying right now And I don't and I've got three over there that are dying and I don't know what I'm doing and I'm mad about it

[00:13:45] Well, I want to know what I'm doing because if I'm gonna have these things I have to keep up on them We'll see how it goes, but they're doing well like my living room has amazing light in it

[00:13:55] and so I've just been kind of like building this plant wall and I keep buying plants and I need to stop I think but I keep buying plants but I can't remember what their names are and then I want to watch YouTube videos about them because

[00:14:09] we were at this like craft show Zoe and I were and The I said, how do you care for this plant? And she in the plant lady at the stand goes she goes I could go on and on about it with you

[00:14:21] But you're not gonna remember and she was like Write down the names of them and go search it on YouTube and there's always someone that's like an expert on the plant

[00:14:30] And then you can go watch the YouTube video and I honestly recommend that, you know for you and I was like That's what I use for doing. I know and I was like really well I know that that's really logical what you're saying, but I never thought of

[00:14:47] So it's very logical But I like I can't remember what these plants are called and then when something starts happening with them and I'm not sure What's happening?

[00:14:56] Then I don't know where to look and I have to go through the process of like re-identifying what the plant is So I'm trying to jot down what they are and remember like does this one get fertilized? This would not get fertilized like I don't even know What

[00:15:13] and I'm also like did I what when did I last water this thing and Because I think I I killed a bunch of plants when I first started trying to figure this out by over watering them So yeah over water. Yeah, it's a problem

[00:15:26] Guy behind me once a month first of the month he gets water. That's it. Yeah Well, that's the kind of plants I need so anybody who wants to recommend once a month plan it like water plant water Yeah watering For plants. Those are the plants I can manage

[00:15:42] Well, I can tell you that a snake plant is one that you can ignore and it does great in Arizona You need one of yes. I have a snake plant. Is it doing well? I think which one is a snake plant

[00:15:53] Is that like the tall it's like yeah. Yep It's in my bedroom and the more you have them the better they clean the air Yeah, so that one is doing well and seems to be thriving

[00:16:03] I guess I don't know because I just live in my house with them. Yeah Well, I want to know about them that way I can talk to my mom about them as well

[00:16:12] Cuz my mom is a very plant person like my mom keeps hard things alive like violets and my mom too I don't I'm scared of that weird Do you think that means that you and I are hard things to keep alive probably for sure? I will

[00:16:28] The plants on Instagram as I was saying I was like voicing like we've had an irritating time like when you're a teenage mom Somebody's just irritated by your teenager. Like everything they do is irritating to you

[00:16:41] probably just like the way that they feel but I was having a really just rough day With my teenager and I was like venting about it on Instagram and I was trying I was like actively thinking while talking and I realized like momming is never done and

[00:17:03] That I still send my mom a video each week about this plant That didn't get enough Sun while we were in Arizona And it got crispy leaves on one end and I keep wanting to prune the leaves back

[00:17:14] And so I send her this like sad video at the beginning of every week where I'm like mom Are you sure that I don't just like cut these leaves like it looks the same

[00:17:24] There's all this undergrowth like it's doing good, but can I just pull these off every week? I sent her this video and she sends me back this really like encouraging messages

[00:17:33] And I'm doing a good job taking care of this plant and to leave it alone and they'll naturally fall off and so I was like laughing that like you said about the violence like I'm 42 and I'm still sending my mom messages about things that I need help with

[00:17:50] So clearly this never ends like you're just all the time I would just like to note that like because you are the eldest right like you get certain perks This is what my mom did to me last week so I

[00:18:04] Had this opportunity that came up and I knew everybody else would be super annoyed about it And my mom probably a little bit annoyed and jealous, but she's my mom So she has to like stomach it better than everybody else

[00:18:14] So I call my mom and I'm like, oh this amazing thing happened and she and her responses I am so proud of all of my children And I was like, maybe you could just be proud of me right now

[00:18:25] Maybe this is about me. Like maybe you just get to say Colleen. What a great job you did So then she fucking mocks me and says Colleen what a great job you did and I was like Cheryl

[00:18:37] I cannot this is what it's like being the youngest like you can't just have anything on your own It's a collective and I look I'm all for communism and socialism. I like those things

[00:18:48] Except for when my mom is telling me I did it like Cheryl you can say I did a good job I know guys she needs therapy. We all know we all know but That was my mom's response was so I'm glad that your mom can defer

[00:19:00] My mom affirms me and my brothers at the same time when they're not here Well, my mom will on occasion make a comment about how she's proud of her kids

[00:19:08] But it's usually in the context like since we've covered high school when I was in high school because I got pregnant some of my mom's adult women friends were very much like You know if it was my daughter and made these like very judgy comments to my mom

[00:19:24] When I was a teenager about my behavior and about my brother's behavior because they were both kind of wild now But now that we are full-grown adults Like my brother and I are like very responsible people and we really have our shit together and

[00:19:39] my mom's friends kids are not all of them, but a good chunk of them are fuck-ups and They have all this crazy shit happening to them all the time

[00:19:49] And my mom's like my mom's just like very humble about it because she remembers how it felt to like to treat to be treated Like that and so she'll listen to them bring up their concerns and she'll say, you know

[00:20:00] I'm so sorry that you're doing that, you know I'm sorry that you guys are going through that and then she'll message me and be like this Like this is happening to so-and-so or I'll see it on Facebook

[00:20:12] Actually, my mom's really good about not gossiping, but I'm friends with all the kids So I'll see you like I'll see some shit on Facebook and I'll be like mom Did you see and let me hear about my high school baby? And what was she's doing because yeah

[00:20:26] And my granddaughters went to college for four years and she's a teacher now working you already graduated Yeah, and so I'll send it to my mom like it's some tea and my mom I have to say is like the classiest person around it because she's like, yeah

[00:20:40] It's a very sad situation and then she'll give me a backstory And I'm like and I'm still like petty like cuz these are my peers and I'm like what? And

[00:20:53] There's been some wild-ass shit that's happened to some of the people I grew up with and so I mean it is, Idaho and so You know It's always hard like that's the hard thing about watching like the the love is blind thing

[00:21:08] and I mean being in the planer community and all this stuff is like it's Fun kind of a lot of us bonded with the snark early on in planer world W and this park is fun and like there is a place where it's the line and

[00:21:25] It's fun, too Did you see this? You know about stuff going on with people and like there is a chain when stuff is happening in planer world still that I'll get Like did you see this from somebody or go run to Instagram and watch this?

[00:21:39] And so there's like a fun aspect to that but then like those girls are blind They took it way too far and they took they took it from being like fun and snarky to being like bitchy and mean-spirited mean-spirited

[00:21:56] because like there's one portion where like one gal is broken up with with by one of the other gals dudes and She's crying about him breaking up with her and these mean girls are like

[00:22:10] Trying to eavesdrop and mock her and not because like because they want to win Like they want to win. It's not about love for them. And I think that's the thing that like as As somebody who is in the dating world, right?

[00:22:24] It is like y'all know I've gone on some dates and I can't remember in the last episode I think maybe I mentioned I did like four dates in five days or five dates in four days. I can't even remember yeah, and

[00:22:38] And if any of those and like all the guys knew there was other guys But like it was there's never a mean-spirited like will tell me about them and then like if there is that's an automatic

[00:22:48] No, like I'm not interested in somebody who wants to win me. I want to choose them and I want them to choose me Yeah, because we're the right fit Mm-hmm, and that's just not what these two girls are about like they're about winning or at least

[00:23:05] Partially about winning. Yeah, and I think that's the thing that's always hard like when you're making friendships especially with adult women where It's like you have to really balance out and you have to really balance out like how you're building your friendship, right?

[00:23:19] Like it's fun to have like a good sense of humor with each other like you and I have a good sense We're back and forth but it's also very awkward when you build whole relationships on drama and negativity like that because then it just like that's the only

[00:23:31] Thing that the relationship is and you have to keep feeding it in order for it to happen And I know I've had that in work environments with like work friends where? the whole discussion is just about what other people have going on and

[00:23:43] we didn't grow to have a good friendship about things that we cared about things that are important and Those relationships went away very quickly when my time at those jobs

[00:23:54] Ended but then I have other friendships that have carried on for a long time because we had like more structure like kids I never had plant friends, but I wonder how many people could have been playing friends

[00:24:05] And then you know people that had shared interests hobbies liked going to do stuff hiking walking I don't if your if your friendship is based on purely on Making fun of other people

[00:24:19] It's probably not gonna last because how do you trust somebody who's always talking smack about somebody else? Yeah Yeah, well, I remember that article it was floating around a couple years ago that floated around the planer community. That was like I no longer sit at tables

[00:24:37] Where I know I'll be talked about when I get up and leave it was like There was that article that floated around and then there was another article about being the be friend like And so it's like you just get into like all these situations

[00:24:55] When you're participating in community or trying to be friendly with people where it just feels weird I mean, I remember even being at a women's retreat for a church and

[00:25:06] there was a woman that at the end of the weekend said she had had such a nice time and she had almost not come to the weekend because The last time she attended a women's event The cabin she got put in it was a group of five women

[00:25:23] She was the sixth wheel and they didn't include her in anything and she just felt so left out the whole time and I mean That happened when you're at plantation, too

[00:25:33] there was a woman that went out of her way and she made all these really beautiful table gifts with these cups and Some people had moved to the chairs So nobody sat at her table and she just had that flashback to high school of like not being apart

[00:25:47] She was very upset and it was able to get fixed and resolved but it's like it's so hard when you're trying to be in a group where you're excited to be with your friends and Like in terms like that accidentally like sometimes just accidentally even yeah, yeah

[00:26:02] I think it's you know, it's one of those things for us all to be conscious of right? I mean I think that As we get older I remember On one of my birthdays when I was probably I think it was 13 or 14 It was probably 13

[00:26:19] so I think that's the last time I had a birthday party and I remember one of the guys that I went to school with called me and Wished me a happy birthday

[00:26:29] And he asked me what I was doing and I was like, oh I'm getting ready for my party But he hadn't been invited to the party. Hmm, but I don't think he wanted to come to the party

[00:26:38] Like we're and actually if it's the person I like I'm trying to remember who it was But I think it's somebody who I'm still friends with now And so I no grudge was held and there was never like there was no weird interest or anything like that

[00:26:47] It was just like pure friendship but I remember getting lectured on my birthday by my parents about like how unkind that was and And so now I'm just super conscious of like if I'm doing something for my birthday

[00:27:01] Everybody within like a peer group is included. So like, you know So it's like if I invite friends from a certain realm that I invite all the friends from that realm that kind of thing which can be

[00:27:15] Challenging because sometimes there's people that you're like, I don't I know that you're gonna come because you feel like you should come Yeah, you don't have to come like I know you don't really want to come

[00:27:23] You know and that kind of thing and so so it's interesting though how like that lesson. Oh, I got it I tried not to be an asshole about things because sometimes it's like you're not inviting people for really specific reasons

[00:27:35] Like you haven't seen this person for a long time There's a deep topic that you need to talk about like that kind of thing or like it as an introvert, right? Like I can only handle so many people and I cannot handle certain energy at certain times

[00:27:48] And yeah, it's you know, but I try to you know Be aware of that now Like I feel myself treading more and more into being when I was in high school My friend her mom was the one that like kind of always

[00:28:05] Reset us if we were getting kind of out of line She was always kind of with an earshot of the group of girls because we had a big group of girls We'd go camping we'd hang out and she would always kind of be an earshot

[00:28:17] Hearing what was happening almost like she was and I know I mean as an adult now like she terrifies me still to the core But I have a lot of her like she was the head of the Chamber of Commerce

[00:28:26] And she is like the social coordinator for her, but she always Stuck to a philosophy that I learned Much much later in life and that is you meet people two times going up and coming back down So be kind everyone

[00:28:40] but her name is Pam and Pam would always be in like this realm of all of us women or young women and She would you could always see her kind of with her head tilted over her shoulder like with the ear, you know behind us and

[00:28:55] Whenever we took something a little bit too far like trying to be risqué or trying to be too snarky She would just gently turn and she wouldn't even move her whole body. She would just shift a little and she would go ladies and pause and if we didn't

[00:29:11] Acknowledge her and be quiet for a second She would say it again louder and then she was like enough of a leader in her group of adult women the other women would stop talking and

[00:29:25] Wait till Pam got the attention and I was like, I want to be like Pam man Pam we're like people are paying attention to what she's saying because she provides enough value To the conversation and she know and you know, she's looking out for you, you know

[00:29:40] And so I mean even now we're friggin 42 years old and we'll be at the river in Idaho and if she overhears something where we're being too like Rashi Getting too raunchy. She'll just come down to the edge of the bank and she'll go ladies

[00:30:04] You got Pam yeah, but like again like you kind of love it because it is someone that's Has an ear to the outside conversation She knows that what you're saying could be hurtful or received wrong and she's looking out for you And so, you know

[00:30:16] I guess it's like so weird to be like moving more into that realm because I work with a lot of very Young women early in their career right now in some of the stuff that I'm doing and I see it in them, too

[00:30:27] where it's like your is your ambition getting ahead of you or Like do you need to do that? Because you may want to tone that back just a little bit or like just helping young women navigate professionalism now even where it's like

[00:30:41] You could get I know so many things that I could be so backstabby, but we're gonna we're gonna walk in the light It's so hard to be like the nice person and not get caught up in gameplay too

[00:30:57] Like especially when you have the experience to know how to navigate that sort of thing So yeah, it really becomes like a choice though Well, and I think like there's a certain point where Working in a toxic work environment is just no longer what you want

[00:31:15] Like in and like and I don't know that like you necessarily mean with a group of toxic friends like There's a you just have a friend group where you're like, you know

[00:31:23] I have to separate myself from this because this isn't where I want to keep going, you know Yeah, this isn't the healthiest. This isn't the thing that I want, you know sort of be delving into yeah, I mean, I think it's it's interesting because it's

[00:31:40] One of the things with our lives being filmed and captured the way they are is that these moments right and so it's like Reality TV is this great understanding of character and like things that you don't want to be seen as

[00:31:54] Which I think is really helpful for us because hopefully what you do is you take that opportunity to kind of learn and grow But I'm glad that Pam was around, you know ladies you and I hope that's what you're doing to your plants as well

[00:32:07] Lady, yes when those plants get out of line, you know when they're not encouraging each other. I'm just really like Ladies you talk to your plants and like try to help them grow because I feel like I don't I talk too much or too little

[00:32:20] Or something in mind. I just don't know that I do I am hovery like now that my children need me less and you know There's less things like that to manage I'm glad to have a little bit of something I mean

[00:32:35] I went to go fill out my planner this week That was part of the reason that I added it is that I keep looking up the names of these plants and learning a little Bit about them and I'm not writing it down anywhere

[00:32:44] And then I looked at my planner and I was like, where am I keeping track of the watering? I had I when I was at oh, I went to an event the Stampin Scrapbook Expo like Texas planter babes crop

[00:32:56] And I picked up something off of the D stash table and it was like old happy planner watering. Oh my god. Stop it but it was like a plant care water whereas like watering and pruning and

[00:33:09] Spraying them down and stuff and I was like, I don't even have a place in the planner room keeping track of that and I have the space to put it in there so it's like I'm gonna put that in my planner and

[00:33:21] Use up some of these stickers that I got off the D stash table. I Love that well, I did last year. I bought some wrong wrong Like wrong wrong did a set that's like plant mama. Oh

[00:33:36] And so I actually have been working your way to this. I've been working my way Well, like you've already committed now you're just slowly getting there I'm just slowly getting there it's it's a slow burn That's what they say. I'm love is blind. It's a slow burn

[00:33:56] But in my case it's passionate it's like this passionate Passionate but I prepared for the passion last summer. Yeah, exactly No, but I have the plant tracker in there, I'm very excited

[00:34:07] I don't even like what did people do with all these damn plants that they bought in Copen? Did they just let him die off? I posted about I think that they're just now living and it's just part of their lives

[00:34:17] That's what happens when you have a habit. It just becomes a habit Well, it's what you do outside of my house. I killed off four bushes In the winter here and so I had to replace them and I there's a lady here

[00:34:30] That works for the plant store that'll come out to your house and like tell you what can live on that side of your house with the Sun and She came out at the end of our last meetup

[00:34:40] She'd been running late didn't show then miraculously showed up in the middle of our meetups I had to like excuse myself so that I could Jamie just disappeared and the other people were like

[00:34:51] She is she okay? And I was like, it's the plant lady. Jamie wouldn't have disappeared for anything else. So Lady comes and she's like talking to you about plants

[00:35:00] And then I had to walk her through because there's a part of our backyard where we get a lot of water and I was Like what can I put here? Because it's shady and I don't know what to put and as I walked through the house

[00:35:09] She was like, oh look at all your babies and we just sat there having this conversation about all the plants and she's like you should do this and that and So today I went to go buy the plants and I was like, oh my gosh

[00:35:22] She's like you should do this and that and so today I went to go buy the plants that she Recommended if nose in there, she was like, do you want to see some more like plants that we just got in? I was like no like can't

[00:35:34] Get any more right now like I can't and so I did have some self-control about this today but I'm proud of you and I feel like I'm for sure cycling still through like the

[00:35:46] 2020 energy that you guys had when it came like that everybody living in a house had and Just like getting through Plants now, so next you're gonna get another dog or no no more animals None Okay. Well Jamie I have a confession

[00:36:07] Tell me I am in a planner funk. I Have not Colleen has not gotten her 2023 groove. I'm clutching my pearls right now How can you have a planner podcast and not be keeping up? I've got planner shit everywhere and I've been writing and things but I've just so

[00:36:28] Everybody knows that I decided I was just gonna use the ho-co this year the ho-co team hope co But I was gonna do it without any kits because you know There's not really necessarily kits and I think I'm missing the structure and the joy of placing a kit

[00:36:48] so I Don't know what the fuck to do because here's the thing. What do I decide? Do I get a monthly for the ho-co? Do I get a weekly for the ho-co? Do I get a daily?

[00:36:59] I don't know and I feel like probably I just get the weekly but I haven't made that commitment level yet But I think I need to because I feel like that's my poor ho-co

[00:37:09] It's I mean, I started some dates in it. That's all it's got dates and like and there's enough dates But there's not enough dates, you know, yeah, I mean, that's the hard part of having a non like

[00:37:23] Traditional weekly planner like a weekly vertical is that a lot of people are still making stuff for a weekly vertical But they aren't making like a weekly themed kit for a ho-co or for well There is some there's not enough though

[00:37:38] Like it's all the stuff that we've already seen in my opinion Because I was looking for it when I was doing just daily planning like I wish that I could buy a daily planning kit that The same theme carried through for the week

[00:37:51] Yeah, you know and they have some of them for like the ho-cos but I feel like there's not enough of them or there a lot of stuff that we've seen before and It's like we haven't quite

[00:38:06] Vetted this out. It's like a half baked thing that we're doing with these things I'm just yeah, I'm struggling. So I'm gonna go on vacation next week Hopefully when I get back from vacation I can Use April as my month to jump back in and become regular

[00:38:27] Well, if there's any tip I can give you is this Basically, I buy at this point I buy from three or four sticker shops and I don't buy the kits. I buy like the full sheet of stuff. So what I'll

[00:38:42] What I'll do what I've been doing is I've been doing like highlighting with a mild liner or I have these like a low Hofstra We did you get new highlighters and you didn't tell me about them? Oh, I've had these for a while

[00:38:56] I talked about them on a meetup So these are I at meetup, I don't think I've never seen those before you think You need to get these there's like two sets of them I'm reaching

[00:39:11] I know you I was not there. That was the meetup you did without me and then I found out afterwards so they're cream colored a low Hofstra markers and

[00:39:21] They're all those like amazing neutral tones like I guess the problem that I've had with the mild liners, here's the colors look You definitely didn't tell me about these yeah, so they have them on Amazon they're low Hofstra. I think that's what they're called

[00:39:39] Yeah, I found them youth and happiness or the two yes So they come in a little case you order them out of the case and you enjoy them But because because there haven't been enough kits and I don't I got those narrative Hughes stickers, which I really like

[00:39:57] But what I'm liking them for is when I know I have a dedicated appointment on my week I'll throw a sticker down and then just put like the word sticker over it or put an icon sticker over it, you know

[00:40:11] But I've been using these little highlighters and I just pick a highlighter for the week I highlight and then I'll throw down like if I'm gonna use Fox and pit stickers

[00:40:19] for all the stuff that I have going on I'll use I'll have like a fox and pit week or I'll have a Bubba bear week or a wrong wrong week where all the icons that I use are from that art style and

[00:40:32] Then I'm just changing up those stickers each week and then I'm changing the color of the highlighter that I use. And so that's That's been doing it for me lately And so like here's last week

[00:40:48] Here's last week where I just use the highlighters and I used the same stickers, you know Yeah, I like your dating stickers I will say that I almost posted a picture in the group and maybe I will we'll see

[00:41:03] My dating stickers are literally like the United Color of Benetton Like it's me and all of the variations and I'm like, maybe I should just order all of them Like if the current dating the person I'm dating right now, does it work out?

[00:41:19] I think I'm just gonna have to do a full investment in Like who are the remaining men? I need to be dating to like use all the color options But I do wish that there was some curly hair options, but then that would be a whole mess

[00:41:31] Yeah, how could I possibly I couldn't possibly like you have to double up and then I use So I was able to find some generic ones. So I have the zig Color dot. No, I don't like the color dot. No, but you know what?

[00:41:45] I like is I like the felt tip on the end of it So when I'm trying to write like when I'm trying to write like a bunch of activities in I'll use the gray color to just separate the

[00:42:00] Items like you would if you had a quarter or a half block sticker But I'm writing in the planner on the paper and I have to say that you know this Tomo River paper Yes, it does have shadowing with the Villa beautiful pens

[00:42:18] But it's not bothering me very much at this stage in my life and planner your planner life Yeah, I don't really know who I am at all, but it seems to be working. So I'm not gonna complain

[00:42:30] I think that complaining is unnecessary and it's important to just be honest important to just be joyful and But the gray the gray makes like enough of a shadow in between like things that are happening

[00:42:44] So I'll do like a little highlight and write down what I have to get done or what I did Write it in you know, and so it's coming together You know So that's how I've been getting over not having kits

[00:42:57] because there's really not any kits for anything that I'm doing right now either and I totally understand what you're saying when it feels like you're in a planner rut because I'll sit down and I'm like

[00:43:07] I got flipped through all these goddamn sticker books put this theme together and figure out what the fuck I gotta get done this week You know, so I totally feel that but look at how pretty my Valentine's Day week was

[00:43:20] Well, it's so pretty. I do colors. I think that you're doing a very nice job on the colors. Thank you That pleases me. Yeah, I think I'm just like

[00:43:30] It's just been a little bit chaotic and busy and so I feel like I haven't gotten back into my groove And so I guess it's time Yeah, I'm gonna get my back. I also am really loving the wacky I've never in my planner life done wacky

[00:43:46] Holidays and it were wacky holiday stickers and I actually really like having them in my planner It's brought me a lot more joy Like I was doing a

[00:43:57] we're doing like a PR push and all this planning and I was like flipping through my thing and I was like There was dog day like a couple weeks ago and I was like, oh, it's a dog day next week

[00:44:07] We should probably do a dog day or puppy day. I think it was puppy day. I was gonna say yeah Cuz I see it the internet. Oh, yeah We should do a post that's like we were like colors for language

[00:44:20] But in Lakota a dog is Shunka and I was like we were supposed to do the color black And so I was like Shunka Sapa Sapa Shunka And I was like black dog like let's do a post on that

[00:44:34] Okay, I'm like cuz it's puppy day and they're like, how do you know all these holidays? Like I just know that's what I said. Is that I just You know cuz I think that it was like What was it I

[00:44:50] Think it was like potato day and there's a meme that floats around the native community is like everyone's trying to be deeply like Reattaching to their indigenous roots by doing all these things and I just learned the word potato in my language

[00:45:04] And so I was like we should do a post like that for potato day and they're like, how do you know? It's potato day and I'm like, I just keep up on these things

[00:45:13] My knowledge base don't think about my sticker collection. Yeah, but I've had a lot of rash of planner Recommendations in the past couple weeks. Yeah people asking you for them Yeah like non planner people being like I heard you're the go-to person for

[00:45:31] Helping me find a planner and or I'm trying to get my life together. Can you help me find a planner? And the thing that I have learned is that And the thing that I have learned is that there are no right now we're in a phase where

[00:45:46] Nothing has a monthly line without going custom. What do you mean? Nothing has a monthly line like just pure month Yeah, like a monthly planner with the lines. Oh That's interesting. You know how sometimes

[00:46:00] That though why would you want a monthly with the lines? I don't even understand I don't know but it was important to the person that was asking me about it wrong I

[00:46:10] Told them to go to Target because there's usually a planner at Target. I was gonna say they could give like generic Office planner that like my office would give me for free, but I don't take exactly

[00:46:23] So I had to like go back to the person to be like well Here's all these cute planners that you can get and they send her like a plum paper

[00:46:30] That was the top one to meet all her criteria, but I was like, but it doesn't have aligned monthly So, you know, but I really think She has five kids. I'm like, I really feel like with five kids

[00:46:42] Planner and not just a monthly one seriously with five kids. I would need yeah Yeah Well, Jamie Colleen. I know it's I know that we have taken up a lot of your time this evening to bedtime

[00:46:54] You've really got to get shut up. You're gonna go finish watching. Love is blind So I don't tell everybody you've got to go get back to love is blind

[00:47:02] You know, you got to do so to catch up on and I got 30 minutes of an episode that I gotta get to as well, so You know, so good. So good

[00:47:13] The mean girling on the show will continue but I know that none of our listeners would ever mean girl anyone in the planner community No Bitches except about your planners Exactly. Also, I'm gonna post a tick-tock again on feet

[00:47:29] Oh my god, Jamie that tick-tock day like bless your heart because I was it was chaos day for me in general and then you Yeah But the funniest thing for anybody listening was like I was listening to pod fest which is a pod fest

[00:47:44] podcast conference and they were talking about how you need to like serve your community and You know make sure that you take care of their needs and at the same time

[00:47:52] I'm sitting there trying to figure out how to get a goddamn tick-tock to work on Facebook and just getting pissed Because I'm like, why isn't this shit working like it wasn't mad at

[00:48:02] Mad at Facebook and tick-tock working together and I felt like a boomer like in Congress being like how come these? Tiki-takis don't work It's not working I did I did the thing I did the

[00:48:21] Why is it work no, I did that I did it right and then the best part was is like Jamie is like I don't know what is wrong with this and then she's like I clicked on it. It's the wrong link

[00:48:37] About it is the schtick to get the video where my god, right watch it was better Than the actual video and it was like we are all clearly playing our girls where it's like we're gonna fix this like we were

[00:48:51] Fixed yeah. No, it was definitely like at one point Jamie's like this is not worth the joke at all Like I literally it's not even worth it. I was like, I swear to God

[00:49:00] This is not funny enough for the debacle that we have to go through to get this to you guys So no, no, we'll never post a tick-tock if you ever want to tick-tock that I mentioned you can message me privately after the

[00:49:15] Try to remember it or try to find it and send it to you. Like if you need that Silver Springs tick-tock Explainer I'll send it to you, but you have to DM me on the Instagram Because I don't send things on tick-tock

[00:49:34] Okay with that said keep planning stay awesome adios adios chachas Because I'm just watching your mouth I'm just watching those lips lips don't lie Jamie lip. Well, they do a lot actually but And they're starkey

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