[00:00:00] You're listening to the Planner Girl Chatter podcast with your host Jamie Marcus Bratcher and Colleen Felian. Grab a fresh cup of coffee and the closest planner start unboxing your latest etsy order because it's time for Planner Girl Chatter. Welcome everybody to an episode of Planner Girl Chatter. I like the way you said that Jamie. Yeah, this is Jamie and I am here with my lovely free of blood in her lungs co-hosting
[00:00:30] I'm alive Jamie, I'm alive living and here breathing with us. You know I've got to tell you Jamie one of my favorite things. You know I've talked about a lot of my favorite things over the years but one of my absolute favorite things is breathing like I find that not only is it necessary for life. It is necessary for pretty much everything else including life so I'm a fan and I'm being able to breathe wasn't my favorite thing. I'm not
[00:01:00] favorite. Yeah, that's just so wild. I mean it seems really like selfish you know for you to like want to breathe air well really selfish in my lungs to feel like they need to have pathways to breathe and that like blood clots are a problem but here we are. So for those who aren't aware. I always think that people that listen or just like friends with us on Instagram and Facebook.
[00:01:28] People that are not that just follow the Facebook group or listen to the podcast. Yeah, you probably don't know why we've been basically radio silence in summer. Yes, yes so I think that probably one of our last episodes I was talking about my road trip. I feel like that sounds about right yeah so about about two weeks after I got home maybe three weeks but probably about two weeks.
[00:01:56] I started having shortness of breath and ended up in the emergency room with bilateral pulmonary embolisms so basically I had big old clots up in my lungs that were making it next to impossible to breathe. So it is a very common way that people die and they have no idea what's happening and so thankfully I am alive and you can hear me talking so I can breathe but it has been
[00:02:26] very much a life changing experience. It's been very humbling. Yeah, it's really helped I think solidify for me.
[00:02:37] Things I want to do moving forward with my life that I was already sort of where where I was headed and I think in some ways you've had similar stuff that I think have pushed you too in a similar direction.
[00:02:50] Yeah well the night that you messaged me I think it was like I woke up and I had gotten a message from you at like two or three in the morning that was like so I'm in the hospital and it wasn't until like even I think later the second day that you were in the hospital that I was like wait could you have died.
[00:03:09] Oh yeah well I almost died and it was like okay sometimes you have to go to the hospital and spend overnight because they want to observe you and they need to do surgery.
[00:03:19] Like and it's not a one good thing but yeah, yeah it's serious and they need to manage it and then I was like wait calling could have died I could be like having to fly out to Tucson and do funeral stuff.
[00:03:32] Yeah.
[00:03:33] You know and so it was no it was like really really really serious and really really really scary so yes I think that everybody else is much more concerned that I was going to die than I was.
[00:03:45] At the time, I mean I've done some processing but legitimately like you know the night before I went to the hospital I was on stage doing a story at the female storytellers in town.
[00:04:00] And I knew I was having problems breathing but I genuinely decided to diagnose myself thanks to Dr. Google but that night I mean like the the clots of my lungs were severe enough that like I'm lucky I didn't die that night.
[00:04:15] So yeah and if I had not gone to the emergency room, I don't know exactly what would have happened but to give you guys kind of an idea for those who don't know about them or aren't familiar because I certainly wasn't.
[00:04:29] But you know you can have different symptoms of mine were I noticed that my blood oxygen level went really low so because of COVID I have like an examiner at home so I realized that it wasn't normal for me to be out of breath from just doing minimal things and so.
[00:04:44] When I realized I had low oxygen, I just was like oh let me Google why could I have low oxygen in the second one was pulmonary embolism but the first one was anemia and I was like look I was anemic in high school.
[00:04:57] So that is the easiest most simple you know I'm clearly not eating very well so that just makes the most sense.
[00:05:04] And so I just decided and so when I when I woke up the next morning, I was out of breath from walking probably 20 feet from the back of the house to the front of the house if 30 feet maybe yeah and that's when I was like no I should not go to work today.
[00:05:19] And then I was like I'll just go to the urgent care and then I was like okay so I'm going to walk up to the urgent care and say like I've tightness in my chest and problems breathing and they're going to send me to the emergency room because they're going to think I'm having a heart attack or something like yeah.
[00:05:31] And so I just went straight to the emergency room because I was sure it was anemia and I was like I know that they're going to test me for other things but I'll just get a blood transfusion it will be fine like I was just certain like I was totally certain.
[00:05:42] And I was wrong and it was very, very wrong but I think my like PSA for everybody is if something feels weird in your body.
[00:05:52] It is weird in your body if you can't breathe that's a problem like you need to go the emergency room.
[00:05:58] The emergency room doctor told me that a lot of people who just randomly die in their sleep it's pulmonary embolisms and nobody nobody knows until the autopsy.
[00:06:09] Yeah, yeah so so like so now like I had one of my friends this week actually a planner girl or it was last week she sent me a message and she's like so I'm experiencing in like inserted some symptoms.
[00:06:22] What do you think I should do when I was like if I hadn't gone to the emergency room I would have died I think you should go to the emergency room like I'm not like I know that you don't want to spend the money I get it but like I also like was genuinely sure it was nothing
[00:06:35] And I was 100% wrong and we especially women I think are taught to minimize our pain in our symptoms.
[00:06:44] And I will say I'm a little bit bitter because I do think that if you're going to be so close to death you should know because it should hurt and it didn't hurt and that seems not proper it seems like you should have some
[00:06:55] I couldn't breathe which was uncomfortable but it wasn't painful if that makes sense and so so needless to say yeah I don't ask me because I'm going to tell you don't have an emergency room every time and twice on Sunday because money is not worth death so no yeah
[00:07:13] And I don't yeah go and debt but like dying is really not an option so I think you know ultimately the experience for me has kind of confirmed that like where I want to be putting my energy is in is in some new projects and some new things that you and I are working on
[00:07:34] because you know life really is short and I really I want to spend my time doing things in a different way than I have in the past.
[00:07:48] Yeah well and I think that's the same way that it is for a lot of the stuff that was happening at our life at that same time.
[00:07:57] So I think all summer I was kind of I was helping my mom all summer off and on manage a situation with her brother he just he was always kind of a recluse and not very close to the family.
[00:08:12] He got very sick from cancer throat cancer and he had a lot of animals that needed to get placed in a home and so that was very cumbersome to deal with them summer and then ultimately he was put into like a long term care and passed away right around the same time that that was happening with you.
[00:08:34] And then our dogs started having seizures and I'm not going to cry but it is sad little franny everybody.
[00:08:40] You know, we have a lot of podcasts yeah you're looking we've had that little dog forever but we it was like Kendra had come been out in Arizona she came back and we had a fire alarm go off in the middle of the night and like 130 in the morning scared the shit out of all of us
[00:09:02] because you're dead asleep and just a fire alarm.
[00:09:05] And I think like 20 30 minutes later the dog just started having a seizures never had a seizure before just very randomly started having a seizure and then the seizures continued we took her to the vet.
[00:09:17] Like that was like a I think was a Monday like Sunday Monday morning we took her to the vet that week and they did what scans they could they said we could send her for like a CT scan but it was going to be like 1500 dollars and it was like we'll just see how it goes.
[00:09:37] So we had epilepsy when she was a little kid so I have a fair amount of experience with that.
[00:09:43] And so I we just kind of waited to see what would happen and it just got worse and worse over the course the next week and so we had to put her down which was just.
[00:09:54] And then we sat in we weren't ready for her to go and it was set.
[00:10:00] But then of course when it rains and pours our family always thinks of everything things coming through it's right.
[00:10:07] And so at the same time that this was happening Kelsey had gone in for this oral surgery to have a bone graft done because he has whatever.
[00:10:18] What is that period on all disease and he couldn't get his heart rate and their control and so they sent the yard so Kelsey has had this issue off and on for the past three years we haven't.
[00:10:28] You're taking it like kind of seriously but I mean I think it's up to you like if you if you're married or you've been with anybody for any amount of time you fully understand that like they have weird health stuff and if they don't take it seriously you don't take it seriously it may scare you but you're not going to get your husband.
[00:10:45] And so we were going to go to the hospital and so anyway.
[00:10:53] We went he went in to go have this oral surgery and he was so anxious he just could not get blood pressure under control they sent us to the urgent care.
[00:11:00] This was like literally the day after the dogs started having seizures and it he just he they're like you have atrial fibular relation like you need to go see a cardiologist and so then we spent the month waiting for it.
[00:11:14] So a month waiting for him to get into the cardiologist but immediately it became like not only is the dog sick and having all of these things but now we immediately need to like start doing like some very specific health things like he had stopped smoking vaping you know a year ago but now we need to like do a more heart healthy diet and we need to walk every day and so there's all these like immediate needs on top of everything else.
[00:11:42] Trying to fit all of that stuff into the day is just so crazy and it makes your day that is like I wouldn't particularly describe my days as hectic because we both work from home but trying to fit something in that is like completely different between cooking meals between walking.
[00:12:01] Like it's just a whole different routine and you have to sort that stuff out and it's just been very, very challenging they sound blood thinners this eloquist and all these other things need to yeah and so.
[00:12:14] It's kind of weird because Colleen and I are on like this parallel like journey with heart stuff even though it's not my heart is my husband's heart and we're having to do a lot of the same things but our discussions like you said just keep settling down to being the same thing and that's re prioritizing what how we're spending our time you know with the free time that we have what do we want to do with it which we had already started talking about this right before all this happened back in June and July.
[00:12:44] And so Colleen and I before we started recording tonight we were like we better hurry up and hit record because we're going to like lose the magic of what we're talking about.
[00:12:52] And so one of the things I was telling Colleen before this it's funny because we started talking about the intentional reset project as a concept and we both had like I think this beautiful vision of all these interesting things that we wanted to prioritize in our life.
[00:13:07] And then as soon as we define what that can look like and how we're going to start tackling it.
[00:13:14] Our bodies and our actual life like steps in and they're like oh hey bitches remember what's fucking shit that you like actually have a team care very good so you're actually like prioritize that because like.
[00:13:29] Right now okay.
[00:13:31] Come on.
[00:13:32] Yeah.
[00:13:34] Yeah.
[00:13:35] There's all this stuff that we're now having to fit in and prioritize that we had planned on getting around to eventually that now we are having to take care of and so it changes I think that both of our worlds have changed a lot because
[00:13:51] Of this whole situation that both of us are in it you know and it's I can't even we I don't even know how it's basically October.
[00:14:00] Yeah I mean I think we are people who like to plan and we like to organize and like to do all these things and so the great irony right is that as we're like we're going to do this new thing it's super exciting and then it's like the universe is like.
[00:14:21] Yeah you definitely need to do that thing but maybe a little bit differently than you were planning on it and I think it's been you know what I think i'm very.
[00:14:33] I want to say I don't want to say please but i'm happy about is that.
[00:14:38] I very much have focused on just taking care of me right like over the last month and weeks since my hospitalization and I'm really.
[00:14:53] The pace of life before right like when we've talked about this before like pre-COVID right I'd never wanted to get back to the way that it was pre-COVID after COVID like I was like no you know want to slow down not kind of stuff but so quickly can life.
[00:15:08] Start pushing you and propelling you back to the past and like and I know for me the first six months of this year we're like that where it was just one thing after another after another and like my craft room is.
[00:15:23] A mess of stuff because like I've gone on these trips and I haven't been able to incorporate the things and so there's just shit everywhere.
[00:15:32] Because I just haven't had time and I have no time because i've allowed my job to take over I've allowed you know like all these things and so.
[00:15:41] So i'm just very conscious now that it's like if I don't make really clear choices and if I don't prioritize my wishes.
[00:15:52] At a moment like this then i'm never going to do that and so even though you know I there's not a single thing i've done that I wouldn't want to do again.
[00:16:01] I think one of the very stark realities for me when it was like oh yeah no I definitely could have died.
[00:16:08] It's like I didn't have any sensation of regret at all like that was not there's still tons of things I want to do.
[00:16:17] But it wasn't like I felt like I missed out on anything which for me is a huge gift because on the one hand it's like the confirmation that like yeah you should keep doing those things but also it was it's the grace of.
[00:16:32] It's okay if you want to change things and it's okay.
[00:16:35] Time for change and so i think you and I are dancing around it but probably we should just say it.
[00:16:43] That this is going to be the final episode of plan our girl chatter yeah and it's a journey that you and I both have.
[00:16:53] I mean i think back like six years we've been doing this, the things that you have both done in those six years and the relationships that we've had and you know.
[00:17:03] We had our time with Stephanie and then covid hit and then we've had the year since and this has been such.
[00:17:11] A surprising and magical process and it's also I think for you and I time to.
[00:17:20] Shift and be less plan or girl chatter and more intentional with our time and different yeah I think so like it's definitely made me reflective because i've always loved this project it's been such good brevity from like some of the other stuff that's been going on in the world, you know as I think back all the changes.
[00:17:40] That have happened in my family and things like that it's been just so nice to be able to come back to this community.
[00:17:45] And have it and have this medium so I really don't want to give that up but as like we've evolved as people after covid is like.
[00:17:53] There's a lot of times that we have topics that we want to talk about that are a little bit more serious or a little bit more in depth.
[00:17:59] And I struggle to like bring that in with the plan or related stuff because I feel like we always have to like go back to talking about like finding a way to look a planner into it when the planner doesn't really have anything to do with some of the stuff that we're talking about.
[00:18:12] And you know, we want to have these light and fun conversations but like they don't always they're not always plan or related like sometimes there are a little bit more serious or a little bit more productive.
[00:18:21] A little bit more life.
[00:18:23] And it doesn't feel like that always fits into this platform in the way that we've built it and you know, I think back to you know when we started Arizona planner girls even and you know the whole idea of Arizona planner girls and even when we started this podcast was really to spotlight and get to know people in the community.
[00:18:43] And the whole intention was getting to know each other so, you know, if you guys have been listening from the very beginning of my goal with Arizona planner girls was really to just I didn't have any friends in outside of that my job.
[00:18:58] And I had just started working with Kelsey full time and I didn't really know what to do with my kind of didn't know what to do with myself when I started Arizona planner girls after leaving corporate I've been out of it for about a year or two.
[00:19:11] And I just kind of didn't know how to make friends you know and so this has been a great medium for me to be able to meet crafting people and you know enjoy the time.
[00:19:21] But I also think that the planner community has shifted so much and in the conversations with the people that I've met I just really find myself coming back to that point over and over again is that when we first started all of this it was really about connecting with each other and getting to know people, you know when when we did planner readups it was always about.
[00:19:40] Giving people opportunity to introduce themselves giving people the opportunity to share a little bit about their lives or planner they're using.
[00:19:49] And it was just so fresh and so new that it was like really exciting to be a part of that.
[00:19:55] And I think the planner community has shifted just so significantly in the past few years since COVID I do think that there's like a whole new realm of people that are planning.
[00:20:04] And some of the newness and bright and glossiness for me has kind of worn off a little bit really it's my life has changed so much from when we started this podcast to where I am now.
[00:20:15] And I still continue to use my planner still continue to buy stickers like none of that has changed.
[00:20:22] None of my friendships that I've made in the community, I think are going away like there's I talked to plan or people every single day every single day I talk to at least two planner people.
[00:20:34] I honestly cannot think of a day in the past two months what we've been going through all this stuff that I haven't talked to a planner person in that day.
[00:20:43] So I really have like found my friend group, I will continue to go to planner events not can try to make to every planner event but I hope to be invited back to speak like I hope what we contributed to the community gets us invited back to speaking up planner events and other sorting back up.
[00:20:58] But I just think that the priority of making content for the planner community and the way that people are making content in the planner community is not something that i'm interested in like evolving along with.
[00:21:08] And so i'm okay like leaving this as a chapter that i've really enjoyed and and I don't want it to become like this.
[00:21:19] I got to go record a plan or go chatter episode otherwise murder or you know and we've also committed the last six years of our weekends.
[00:21:29] Every month to be with the planner community and I think i'm ready to free up my weekends now that Kendra is getting a little and we only have like 18 months left with Kendra being.
[00:21:40] In our year officially you know before she turns 18 and now that we're settled in the single place, I think you're just really want like kind of my weekends back to be able to.
[00:21:50] You know do more family stuff will we have that time you know with with Kendra to so I don't know you have your reasons for being ready to move to I don't want to take up all of that you know.
[00:22:01] I mean, I think you know for me it's like we're still planners it's just.
[00:22:06] Chatter is a piece that.
[00:22:10] We have we've completed the project right like not that there was ever a specific goal but I think you and I have had the conversations.
[00:22:19] Specific to what thinner girl chatter is we have plenty more conversations that are going to keep coming right so I think that's the thing is like.
[00:22:28] It's somebody who asked me if I was starting to get you know emotional at the idea of recording this episode and I was like no because even though planner girl chatter.
[00:22:37] As a as a being right or as like a part of our identity is going to close right in like that piece of it is closing you and I are just moving to a different project that speaks to who we are now.
[00:22:50] And you know you and I were both in the same place when we joined the planner community where like you hit a certain point in your life oftentimes where.
[00:22:59] You realize your only friends are your co-workers and you don't have anything else and like when I started in the planner community.
[00:23:06] The only identity I really had for most people was my work and so it was so refreshing to meet people and like people were so excited about my planner.
[00:23:17] But not about what I did Monday through Friday to five right.
[00:23:22] And and I am so much more as well than just being a planner girl as are you.
[00:23:30] I heard that is six years like we have had a freaking spectacular experience it's been absolutely amazing and and I fully intend for like that just to continue with other experiences we're going to have.
[00:23:45] We're just shifting and moving it a little bit and in the conversations will not always have conversations about stickers but sometimes they will because you know I love a fucking sticker.
[00:23:55] Oh fuck yeah.
[00:23:58] I mean I think the thing for me too is like I think that the world has changed to there's a lot of women that I know from the planner community that.
[00:24:09] Have really struggled to be like I don't even feel like I fit into the planner community anymore because I'm not planning as much or planning has become.
[00:24:18] Like the creative I still created plan but like I don't really want to post about it on Instagram but you know I'm doing this other really cool craft that I really want to talk about and I don't know how to be a.
[00:24:28] Like a lot of people that I've talked to like feel like they don't have permission to be able to talk about other crafts that they're doing.
[00:24:33] Yeah but they need create a different craft Instagram you know so because this is their planner Instagram and now they're doing this other craft and like how do they combine into it like I've been doing all this quilting stuff and there's a lot of planners that are quilters.
[00:24:47] And I get messages when I share quilting stuff where people like oh my god I love this like I love that you're quilting or like I wanted to start quilting like where do you recommend I get started and so it's like we're.
[00:24:58] evolved multi-faceted beautiful intelligent people that have big lives and that's the whole point of being a planner is like.
[00:25:10] Being intentional about how you want to live your life and making the things around you beautiful you know and that's what we like that's what we want and none of that changes none of that goes away we just aren't going to be having a bi weekly podcast.
[00:25:26] For monthly podcast of this past season.
[00:25:30] We've been wanting to down slowly Jamie we've been slowly winding down you know but I you know I'm sure you and I haven't sure our planners were so goddamn long even and no and it because it just feels.
[00:25:47] It's just shifted right like and it's yeah I still love my plan or I still love my stickers.
[00:25:53] But I too got me on planner sitting right here next to me i'm still writing my plan is like every day in the back of my sterling ink planner I have all these nutritional notes.
[00:26:04] Yep, like it has all these pages of the back and so I have all these notes because now that I'm a woman over 40 apparently my dietary habits need to change up with an eating
[00:26:15] And I really didn't understand that because my husband has somehow lost almost 40 pounds and i'm still holding strong at the same way that I was when I started but like i'm adjusting to eating the way that.
[00:26:27] Like for some of the stuff that he needed because he would got out ahead of this so I'm going to go and he's like oh no actually I need to not be doing most of that.
[00:26:35] Because i'm a woman over 40 as I've read online and i need to be doing things significantly differently than what he does.
[00:26:43] Because this motherfucker can just like stop drinking is so I he's like i'm just going to cut out caffeine and i'm going to not drink soda and i'm going to like.
[00:26:52] You're going to cook my meals and so then i'm like cooking all this heart healthy shit and then it cuts out all the shit that I actually need and my body is just like.
[00:27:02] This then right and so yeah anyway but the planner is still here is my point.
[00:27:09] I mean i mean i was collective is this weekend i'm still me ordering fucking stickers and if you think i'm fucking skipping that you are wrong.
[00:27:19] Yeah i mean i i think i just i want to thank everybody who honestly it still shocks me that people listen to us talk to each other.
[00:27:29] I mean i fully entertained by our conversations but i'm still shocked that people will choose to do it on their own and and i'm so grateful.
[00:27:42] I mean i think that oh now i'm going to get all emotional that wasn't going to um but it's truly been such a gift.
[00:27:52] If you're going to cry.
[00:27:55] I'm going to move for two answers.
[00:27:58] We're like oh my god.
[00:27:59] You're going to be super strong we're fine.
[00:28:02] I mean i think truly i'm so grateful you know i'm so grateful that jimmy you had this fucking idea in the first place
[00:28:12] that i thought was nonsense.
[00:28:13] I know i'm so fucking smart.
[00:28:15] Yeah like nobody's going to listen to the shit.
[00:28:19] Like move that help.
[00:28:20] And listen to us talk about our pens um but like if we've been able to do it then incredible so.
[00:28:29] They all i mean we've covered so much ground i feel like we've covered so much ground and i still will go to a planner of it
[00:28:36] and have people be like oh i love the podcast you know and say that you know they love it so much
[00:28:44] and they're just so you know excited to meet us at an event and uh you know and so i think that
[00:28:55] that's i think there's great people in the planar community like we met so many great people
[00:29:01] we met so many fucking terrible people too.
[00:29:06] We met so many great people in the planar community and there's been so many great events
[00:29:12] there's been so many terrible events and i've loved gossiping about it privately with so many people
[00:29:18] and there's so much tea that we never spilled because this isn't that type of a podcast
[00:29:23] and you know but like we've just genuinely had such a good time with all of this stuff.
[00:29:29] I think that that's for me is like i always think of that uh the movie uh high fidelity where jack
[00:29:36] black says is it better to burn out or fade away you know i think that's you know i want to close
[00:29:46] out an integral chatter is something that's like at where i'm just still really enjoying it and not
[00:29:52] something that's just like globbing on as terrible and you know we're going to keep the episodes up
[00:29:59] so that people can you know continue to go back and listen to them it's so funny because I there
[00:30:04] was one point where I started a project trying to like go back and figure out who's you know what
[00:30:10] leaks are broken on our podcast page and stuff like that because there's so many shops that have
[00:30:14] closed and all of this and i'm just like i started on it and i was like fuck this is depressing
[00:30:20] there's so many fucking shops that have closed and like even today i was talking with Vanessa
[00:30:26] with papered kiss oh yeah and so i'm still friends with her uh she and so i was talking to her today
[00:30:33] and she was talking about all this evolution that she's done because she's had to address all these
[00:30:37] health issues that she had and she's done it with ketosis and i was like girl i remember when you
[00:30:44] first got in my car in 2016 for the first location and jumped in my car and we were complete strangers
[00:30:51] and he drove her up to Scottsdale to go to plancation we had a complete blast that whole weekend together
[00:30:57] and she and i have been friends you know over the years and sh- that girl i was like girl you have
[00:31:03] lived like three lifetimes since you first started trying to figure out like what all your health
[00:31:07] shit is and she would do it how about you like whoever thought RV Jamie would be a thing
[00:31:16] RV Jamie like you're a RV
[00:31:21] but no i mean there's so many cool people that we've met and that i think
[00:31:27] will continue to be super good friends with and i and the other thing is that we're not like
[00:31:31] going away it's like planar girl chatter is you guys are gonna still be able to listen to this
[00:31:36] bitches yeah we can't shut it yeah planar girl chatter is i mean i think it will live on
[00:31:43] in spirit for a very long time and people will still be able to listen to it there's still people
[00:31:48] that find this podcast i think the most bananas fucking thing to me is that they're still about
[00:31:53] 5,000 people a month that listen to this podcast like according to all the like podcast download
[00:31:57] numbers which still blows my fucking mind like i can't believe it and i'm just so surprised
[00:32:05] how big this podcast has been i mean it still sits on the apple top 100 craft stuff and so you know
[00:32:12] i think that but i think it's time to close it out i mean we really really debated like should we
[00:32:17] pass this on to somebody else is this something that you know and when i passed off Arizona planar
[00:32:22] girls i fucking hated the way that that shit went down and i'm still upset about it and so i don't
[00:32:27] want to pass anything on it's just gonna close it out and it's it's on high terms and i feel good
[00:32:32] about it and um you know and so i think it's the right time for us to do that you know we've kicked
[00:32:38] around having guests back on we've kicked around all the i've invited people to come on that i
[00:32:44] just have never scheduled and so i think that it's i think that it's just like definitely time
[00:32:49] there's so there's other great podcasts you know that are planar related out there that you can go
[00:32:54] and find um there's plenty of people still making content around planar so it's not like we're the
[00:33:00] only ones doing this there's a wide selection i do think that we are um doing it in our own unique way
[00:33:07] but um you know but i also think that we can go do that on a new project that serves the place that
[00:33:14] we're at in our lives right now and meets the needs that we have today i think one of the things
[00:33:20] we've talked about a lot is we really want to honor that planar girl chatter is supposed to be
[00:33:26] about planners in the planar community and while the planar community we both have dear friends and
[00:33:35] close like best friends within the planar community we end up wanting to talk about a lot more
[00:33:41] and so you know the intentional reset project is really where i think
[00:33:48] our lives are moving and it's in a more appropriate forum so i mean we'll probably still talk
[00:33:55] about planners right um because at some point it's going to certainly come up but i also really want
[00:34:02] to work on other parts of me and i've learned so much you know being a part of this community that
[00:34:14] really you know the best parts of it i just want to keep keep up oh i think we will because you know
[00:34:22] a num like a huge number of people who are listeners are now in the intentional reset project group and
[00:34:30] um you know and jame and i have so many ideas it's just we can't split our energy you know and
[00:34:37] no well because like we know even with intentional reset project who we still want to bring back
[00:34:43] doing small retreats and you know we still want to be able to speak to people i mean i think
[00:34:50] they were good at talking to people real good or who we have to feel good what the good is
[00:34:55] what are it talking to people and so you know like i think that i think that we both still have a lot
[00:35:00] to say but it's honing that down and having it fit into who we are today you know and i would say
[00:35:09] even evolved yeah and i think like in some ways i think it's the reverse of honing it down it's
[00:35:15] like honing it out right like oh yeah that's probably not going to be bigger and i think that
[00:35:20] that's the thing is that we don't feel like playing a girl chatter that is what
[00:35:29] people will want to hear but that's okay because we'll just move it you know and i feel like
[00:35:35] we're talking a lot about i think we both have loved this oh yeah i think a surprise in the delight
[00:35:43] for both of us and i look forward to interacting with lots of you guys in the plan or world still
[00:35:54] and hopefully we'll see you in the intentional reset project world
[00:35:59] we will come on over come on over which is come on over what won't be sitting in the group you
[00:36:04] well you'll get the links you'll get the links so but Jamie i think with that in the last there's
[00:36:10] anything else you want to say tonight no i'm gonna save it for the next podcast
[00:36:19] so well Jamie with that then i want you to keep planning stay awesome audio
[00:36:29] but chachos chachos yeah but Jamie i can't be doing it right here at the end come on
[00:36:35] and you know i'll never do that correctly and it will always be opposite you know it's a
[00:36:45] worst thing the worst thing about closing out this podcast and having a start new one is this
[00:36:49] you think you're gonna use sign off you have to keep up new sign off that's it i know we have to
[00:36:54] try not to do the same sign off but with that Jamie it's time to say goodbye okay we'll see you all
[00:37:00] over at the intentional reset project we'll make sure we drop links in all the bios and stuff so
[00:37:06] you guys can follow us around don't lose us you should also friend us on our personal pages
[00:37:11] and you know but they're all tagged on the instagram so you go look them up yourself yeah find us
[00:37:17] yeah bye thanks for listening to the plan or girl chatter podcast happy planning